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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GERRI VERY

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MUCH, GERRI WILLIS FOLLOWING

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THAT.

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AND IF YOU WERE IN BITCOIN OR

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ANY OF THE CRYPTOCURRENCIES IN

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THE EARLIER PHASE EVEN WITH THE

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VOLATILITY SINCE, YOU HAD A

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VERY VERY NICE RETURN, TAKING A

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LOOK AT BITCOIN AND OTHERS RIGHT

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NOW, REGARDLESS OF THE

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VOLATILITY IN RECENT DAYS

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HAVE BEEN ON A TERROR CERTAINLY

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OVER RECENT WEEKS, CERTAINLY,

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BEFORE MOST, GRANT JOINS US

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RIGHT NOW THE BLOCKCHAIN CEO,

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VERY GOOD READ OF THIS

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PHENOMENON HERE.

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GRANT, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU

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THANKS FOR COMING BACK.

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>>  GOOD TO SEE YOU, NEIL.

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NEIL: WE WERE JUST SHOWING GOLD,

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IT’S DOING WELL, ITS BEEN ON A

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ROLL OF LATE, BITCOIN HAS AS

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WELL, MAYBE NOT AS

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DRAMATICALLY OF LATE HERE,

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BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT THEM

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AS BEING HEDGES AGAINST WHAT’S

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GOING ON IN THE STOCK MARKET.

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I’M NOT SO SURE I BUY THAT

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BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY ARE ALL

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IN TANDEM WITH THE STOCK MARKET

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REGARDLESS BUT WHERE ARE YOU ON

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THIS?

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>>  ABSOLUTELY.

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I THINK IT’S CLEAR AS DAY NOW

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THAT BITCOIN IS THE NEW GOLD AND

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YOU SEE THE CONVERSATIONS OF SO

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MANY PEOPLE THEY AREN’T TALKING

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ABOUT BUYING GOLD AS MUCH AS

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THEY ARE BUYING BITCOIN AND

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ITS BECOME A HEDGE ESPECIALLY

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WITH THE NEW INFLATION NUMBERS

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THAT CAME OUT YESTERDAY AT 6.2%

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WHICH IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS AND

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EVERYDAY AMERICANS, ALONG WITH

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MAJOR COMPANIES AND DIFFERENT

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PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT WHERE DO

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THEY HEDGE THEIR MONEY?

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WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO

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PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM THIS

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INFLATIONARY ECONOMY THAT

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WE’RE NOW ENTERING INTO, AND I

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THINK THE BEST PLACE YOU COULD

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POSSIBLY PUT IT IS BITCOIN, WE

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HAVE TO REALIZE BITCOIN HAS A

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LIMITED SUPPLY AND EACH ONE OF

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THESE BITCOINS ARE SLOWLY BEING

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MINED OVERTIME SO THE SETUP IS

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AMAZING BUT WITH THE ADOPTION

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HAPPENING SO FAST BY MAJOR

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CORPORATIONS AND WALL STREET NOW

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WITH THE ETF’S AND NFT’S GETTING

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BIG AS WELL THAT’S WHERE WE’RE

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SEEING THIS BECOME LEGITIMATE

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AND BECOMING JUST IT SEEMS TO BE

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THE BEST PLACE TO GO AHEAD AND

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PUT YOUR MONEY.

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NEIL: I THINK MORGAN STANLEY I

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HOPE I’M RIGHT ON THE FIRM,

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GRANT, SAID THAT IT SEES BITCOIN

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GOING UP INTO THE MID $70,000

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RANGE BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND

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DOUBLE THAT NEXT YEAR.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

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>>  I THINK IT’S CLEAR, AS MANY

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PEOPLE SAYING THAT IT COULD GET

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WELL OVER 100,000 BEFORE THE

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END OF THE YEAR.

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I THINK IT’S HEADING IN THE

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RIGHT DIRECTION, AND --

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NEIL: BUT WHAT’S DRIVING IT,

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THAT’S WHAT I’M ASKING, WHAT IS

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DRIVING OPTIMISTIC NOW IN THIS

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LATEST WAVE?

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>>  I THINK RETAIL INVESTORS

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HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR QUITE

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SOMETIME BUT NOW WE’RE SEEING

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MACRO INVESTORS AND BIG MONEY

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KIND OF GET INTO THIS.

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YOU’RE SEEING ADOPTION OF

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COMPANIES, BIG INVESTORS IN WALL

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STREET AND BIG MONEY NOW GETTING

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INVOLVED AND THAT’S WHEN IT

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REALLY STARTS MOVING THE

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PENDULUM IN THAT RIGHT

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DIRECTION, SO I THINK SEEING

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WELL OVER 100,000 BEFORE THE END

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OF THE YEAR IS DEFINITELY

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POSSIBLE AND MULTIPLE OF THAT

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GOING INTO 2022 AND 2023.

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NEIL: INCREASINGLY, WE TALK

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ABOUT COMPANIES THAT WILL ALLOW

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YOU OR  FLIRT WITH THE IDEA OF

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BUYING OR  SELLING WITH

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CRYPTOCURRENCIES, BUT THEN THERE

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ARE POLITICAL FIGURES AND

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ATHLETES WHO WANT TO BE PAID

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WHOLE OR  IN PART, YOU KNOW, IN

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BITCOIN.

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THE MAYOR OF MIAMI, FOR EXAMPLE,

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THE INCOMING MAYOR OF NEW YORK,

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A HOST OF OTHERS.

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HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE

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EQUATION?

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>>  WELL I THINK IT JUST MAKES

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IT MORE LEGITIMATE.

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WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS BRINGING

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ATTENTION TO IT.

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BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE SPACE

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AND I THINK IT’S JUST GOING TO

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SPEED UP THE ADOPTION PROCESS,

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SO WHAT BUSINESS OWNER, IF

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YOU’RE GOING TO ACCEPT $100,000

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IN U.S. DOLLARS THAT YOU’RE LOS

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ING ESSENTIALLY 6% OF YOUR

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MONEY A YEAR WITH INFLATION IF

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YOU COULD EXCEPT THAT SAME

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$100,000 AND GAIN 30% TO 50% ON

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YOUR MONEY ASSUMING IT’S GOING

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TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SEEMS

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LIKE A GREAT IDEA, SO I THINK

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WE’RE SLOWLY GOING TO SEE

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MULTIPLE COMPANIES, MAJOR

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CORPORATIONS START ACCEPTING

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THIS , AND WHEN YOU’RE SEEING

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GOVERNMENT FIGURES REALLY ON

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BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE BEING

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OPEN TO ADOPTING THIS , AND THE

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SEC BACKING DOWN SAYING

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LET’S LET THIS RUN ITS COURSE

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IT’S A FANTASTIC SIGN AND IT’S A

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SIGN FOR INVESTORS THAT IT’S

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SOMETHING THEY NEED TO PAY

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ATTENTION TO AND SOMETHING THEY

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SHOULD BE APART OF.

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NEIL: YOU MENTIONED THE

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SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE

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COMMISSION, APPARENTLY SLOWING

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DOWN THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW,

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REGULATING THIS THING, I THINK

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THE SEC CHIEF CALLING IT THE

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WILD WEST, THE  ROGUE

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INVESTMENT.

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I DON’T KNOW WHETHER THAT’S A

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CHANGE OF HEART OR  JUST

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THROWING UP THEIR ARMS SAYING

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EVEN IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING

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NOW, THIS HORSE IS OUT OF THE

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BARN.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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>>  WELL I THINK THEY DON’T WANT

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TO MAKE ANY TOO BIG CHANGES TOO

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EARLY, AND I THINK SOME FORM OF

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REGULATION IS FINE, LIKE FOR

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EXAMPLE, THINGS LIKE STABLE

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COINS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE

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THAT, THAT’S FINE, BUT I THINK

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THEY DON’T WANT TO GET  AHEAD OF

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THEMSELVES AND LET THIS PLAY OUT

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AND SEE WHERE IT GOES AND GET

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THE RIGHT TEAM AND THE RIGHT

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AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND

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INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT THEY CAN

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MAKE A SOUND DECISION BECAUSE IF

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THEY DO IT TOO EARLY IT COULD

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SEVERELY HURT THE MARKET AND THE

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FUTURE GROWTH HERE IN THE

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UNITED STATES.

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NEIL: ARE YOU IN THE CAMP, FINAL

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LY, GRANT, FOR BITCOIN TO

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EXPLODE AND TAKE OFF, THE MARKET

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HAS TO CRASH AND BURN, THE STOCK

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MARKET.

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>>  I DON’T THINK SO, BUT I

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THINK AS WE SEE INFLATION

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HITTING NUMBERS LIKE THIS , IN

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MY MIND, IT SHOULD HELP CRYPTO.

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I THINK WE’LL GO INTO A BULL RUN

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AND THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR

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MAYBE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST

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QUARTER, OF COURSE THERE WILL BE

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A SELL-OFF IN THE CRYPTO SPACE,

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BUT WITH IT BEING MORE AND MORE

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LEGITIMATE AND MORE PEOPLE

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ACCEPTING IT, I THINK THERE’S A

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GREAT CASE THAT IT’S GOING TO

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STILL CONTINUE TO RIDE THROUGH

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IT AND I THINK IT’LL OPERATE A

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LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE

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STOCK MARKET WHERE THEY

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WON’T BE GOING HAND IN HAND ANY

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MORE.

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NEIL: GOT IT.

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WE’LL FOLLOW IT CLOSELY, GREAT